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At my work I interview a lot of fresh grads and interns. I have been doing that consistently for last 4 years. During the interviews I always ask the candidates to show and tell, share their screen and talk about their projects and work at school and other internships. Since last few months, I have seen a notable difference in the quality and extent of projects these students have been able to accomplish. Every project and website they show looks polished, most of those could be a full startup MVP pre AI days. The bar has clearly been raised way high, very fast with AI.

Matches my experience pretty well. FWIW, this is the opinion that I hear most frequently in real life conversation. I only see the magical revelation takes online -- and I see a lot of them.

We're at the apex of the hype cycle. I think it'll die down in a year and we'll get a better picture of how people have integrated the tools Even if it's not straight astroturfing I think people are wowed and excited and not analyzing it with a clear head

“Emperor wore no clothes” moment. Given time AI will lead to incredible productivity. In the meantime, use as appropriate.

You can see how the bubble is about to pop up, by the number of times Jensen Huang has to show up on CNBC pumping the stock. Hardly before, now its almost three times a week. And never gets any questions on GPU amortization...

Everyone claiming AI is great is trying to make money by being on the leading edge. All AI-IS-WONDERFUL stories are garbage-trash written by garbage people. Fuck AI. Fuck HN AI promoters. Hopefully you all lose your jobs and fail in life.

> only to have it completely obsoleted a few years later? That sure beats having it completely obsoleted a few weeks later, which sometimes feels like the situation with AI

I agree with you in part, but I think the market is going to shift so that you won’t so many need “mega projects”. More and more, projects will be small and bespoke, built around what the team needs or answering a single question rather than forcing teams to work around an established, dominant solution.

How much are you willing to bet on this outcome and what metrics are you going to measure it with when we come to collect in 3 years?

This is the way: make every one of these people with their wild ass claims put their money where their mouths are.

Hold up. This is a funny comment but thinking should be free. It’s when they are trying to sell you something (looking at you “all the AI CEOs”) that unsubstantiated claims are problematic. Then again the problem is that the public has learned nothing from the theranos and WeWorks and even more of a problem is that the vc funding works out for most of these hype trains even if they never develop a real business. The incentives are fucked up. I’d not blame tech enthusiasts for being too enthusiastic

I'm fine with free thinking, but a lot of these are just so repetitive and exausting because there's absolutely no backing from any of those claims or a thread of logic. Might as well talk about how AI will invent sentient lizards which will replace our computers with chocolate cake.

Don't you think it has gotten an order of magnitude better in the last 1-2 years? If it only requires another an order of magnitude improvement to full-on replace coders, how long do you think that will take?

Grifters gotta grift. There is so much money on the line and everyone is trying to be an influencer/“thought leader” in the area. Nobody is actually using AI for anything useful or THEY WOULDNT BE TALKING ABOUT IT. They’d be disrupting everything and making billions of dollars. Instead this whole AI grift reads like “how to be a millionaire in 10 days” grifts by people that aren’t, in fact, millionaires.

I am somewhat worried that this is the moment AI psychosis has come for programmers.

Exactly. Posts that say "I got great results" are just advertisements. Tell me what you're doing that's working good for you. What is your workflow, tooling, what kind of projects have you made. >Over the past year, I’ve been actively using Claude Code for development. Many people believed AI could already assist with programming—seemingly replacing programmers—but I never felt it brought any revolutionary change to the way I work. Funny, because just last month, HN was drowning in blog posts saying Claude Code is what enables them to step away from the desk, is definitely going to replace programmers, and lets people code "all through chatting on [their] phone" (being able to code from your phone while sitting on the bus seems to be the magic threshold that makes all the datacenters worth it).

It reads like articles that pretended blockchain was revolutionary. Also the article itself seems like AI slop.

Oh, wow, totally forgot about that. I kind of miss the brief period when there was a new absurd LLM-based gadget every week or so (actually, I think they are still coming out; there were some at CES. But everyone has largely lost interest).

AI is all facade

My pet peeve with AI is that it just accelerates whatever has already been automated or can be automated easily, but could not touch the bastions of government service, financial service, schools and health services that are way less automated. They keep eating ourselves’ lunch without touching the real problems. For me the pain point has always been with non-IT people/companies. They are way more accustomed with phone or even in person appointments. They in general have way more of a say than me, the customer. Can Openclaw make and take phone calls for me to make appointments? Can Openclaw do chores for me? Can Openclaw meet with contractors for me? None of them it can do. It can make notes for me (useless as most notes are useless). It can scrap websites for me (not very interesting as why would I want to collect so much knowledge?). It can probably automate anything that already has an endpoint or whatever, but I don’t mind write code for my own projects. I always failed to understand why anyone would want to let AI write most of the code of their PERSONAL project — unless they want to sell them quickly. I’m just a frustrated old man I guess.

What substantial and beneficial product has come of this author’s, or anybody’s, use of OpenClaw? What major problems of humanity have they chipped away at, let alone solved — and is there a net benefit once the negatives are taken into account?

Nothing, that is why it change his life ;-)

For the better? For the better, right?

This reads like a linkedin post - high on enthusiasm, low on meaningful content.

But, but… muh AGI! Claude, fix the toilet.

Maybe this is a sign that the AI bubble will pop soon.

If everyone does that, the value of his "creations" are zero. Provided of course that it works and this isn't just another slopfluencer fulfilling his quota. So, OpenClaw has changed his life: It has accelerated the AI psychosis.

I think in the future this might be known as AI megalomania

It is already known as Ai psychosis and ai productivity porn

That's a very inefficient way to interact with CC. There will be transmission losses that need too much feedback looping. So, it appears that we have come a long way bubbling up through abstraction layers: assembly code -> high-level languages -> scripting -> prompting -> openclaw.

> My productivity did improve, but for any given task, I still had to jump into the project, set up the environment, open my editor and Claude Code terminal. I was still the operator; the only difference was that instead of typing code manually, I was typing intent into a chat box. > Then OpenClaw came along, and everything changed. > After a few rounds of practice, I found that I could completely step away from the programming environment and handle an entire project’s development, testing, deployment, launch, and usage—all through chatting on my phone. So, with Claude Code, you're stuck typing in a chat box. Now, with OpenClaw, you can type in a chat box on your phone? This is exciting and revolutionary.

Quite literally, the previous post on this blog is from 2024 talking about what a revolution the Rabbit R1 is. We all know how that turned out. This is why I give every new trendy developer tool a few months to see if it’s really a good thing or just hype.

Maybe that's why these users go crazy over openclaw, they may need or yearn for such a tool. I don't but that doesn't mean there isn't a market for it though.

There isn’t a market. OP wrote that Rabbit R1 post after seeing the release video (according to a comment on this link, their blog post says otherwise) and immediately called it a ”milestone in the evolution of our digital organ” . Their judgement is obviously nonexistent. Something tells me they never even downloaded OpenClaw before writing this blog post. It’s probably an aspirational vision board type post their life coach told them to write because they kept talking about OepnClaw during their sessions, and the life coach got tired of their BS.

> A milestone in the evolution of our digital organ.

Literally came here to make this comment…. No desire to be a hater or ignore the possibility of any tech but…yeah…transformative that was not

Midwits love this kind of stuff. Movie critics heap praise on forgettable movies to get their names and quotes on the movie poster. Robert Scoble made an entire career in tech bloviation hyping the current thing and got invited to the coolest parties. LinkedIn is a word salad conveyor belt of this kind of useless nonsense. It's a racket never ends.

These people are always swarming the new shiny gadgets thinking it will finally unfuck their miserable life while not noticing that the chase is why they've been miserable this whole time. What they need is 6 month in a cabin in the middle of nowhere without internet

There seem to be a lot of posts like this as of late. I truly can't decide if the authors actually believe what they've written or if it's some preposition of themselves to be included in the hype cycle of AI FOMO or what. It feels very cringe as I read it. As if to say OpenClaw has somehow been such a pivotal change in their life, so monumental, that it's an epiphany that has changed them forever. Maybe it's just the fact that I've been surrounded by automation for many years and also using it with agents or LLMs for the past couple that I just don't feel like this is a true sentiment of what actually exists. It feels placed, it feels targeted and it feels like a huge lie. I guess you could also call it low effort marketing.

This "AI" mind virus has spread.

I did because I want to see a critical discussion around it. I'm still trying to figure out if there's any substance to OpenClaw, and hyperbolic claims like this is a great way to separate the wheat from the chaff. It's like Cunningham's Law.

Absolutely - in general, the tendency to want to replace investing in UI/UX with omnipotent chatbots raises my blood pressure.

The marketing of OpenClaw is amazing. They had a one-liner install that didn't work, started the hype-train days before they changed the name of the product and have everyone from nerd influencers to CNBC raving about it. I'm waiting for the grift!

I think this shows an unfettered optimism for things we don't know anything about. Many see this as a red flag for the quality of opinions. > R1 is definitely an upgraded replacement for smartphones. It’s versatile and fulfills all everyday requirements, with an interaction style akin to talking to a human. You seemed pretty certain about how the product worked!

In 2024 we should not be taking companies claims of what products do at face value. We should judge the thing that ships. The most charitable thing you can say about this is they're naive, ignorant of the history of vapourware 'demoed' at trade shows.

> Thank you, AGI—for me, it’s already here. Poe's law strikes... I can't tell if this is satire.

Wow, I re read after reading your comment and now I'm fairly sure the whole post is humourous ^^

More unhinged takes, please. I hope at some point there will be a medical research into this hysteria.

Is this satire? I can't really tell

if 90% is good enough, you are a winner to try your idea and fail fast. if you want to reach 91 or more, AI is a slop and hype to burn our pensions and contribute to vastly to global warming and cognitive decline consumerism evolution

I think everyone cheering for AI will become its archenemy later. I’m very happy that companies like Salesforce and Duolingo, which fired so many people, are now tanking badly.

I get the impression LLM agents are a bit like tamagochi but for tech bros.

This reads like a peacocking LinkedIn post where someone desperately shows they are not just with it, they are ahead of it. The space is absolutely filled with this sort of noise, primarily people who dismissed AI as something only the nubs like, so now their cope is to do the "now it's useful and I have catapulted ahead of all the others bit".

and the "hype-wits" don't realize openclaw is just claude with good mcp. there is nothing new under the sun. its just the first time someone was benevolent enough to open source the codebase to the public or it went viral enough to matter... and yet what people focus on is its "emergence" or "agi" - neither of which are remotely true. but good luck "crushing" those "mid-wits"