Anthropic Criticism

Multiple threads criticizing Anthropic for hypocrisy around distillation complaints while pirating books, settling with authors, gatekeeping access, Mythos claims questioned if distillation attacks work against it

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Critics are calling out Anthropic for what they perceive as blatant hypocrisy, labeling model distillation as "theft" while simultaneously settling legal cases over the alleged piracy of copyrighted books. Many argue that distillation is actually more ethical than Anthropic's own data collection methods because it involves paying API fees rather than scraping public sources without permission. Furthermore, some commenters question the technical prowess of the company’s models, suggesting that if their technology were truly as advanced as claimed, it would not be so vulnerable to distillation attacks in the first place.

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It's absolutely mind boggling to see claims of model distillation being theft, a class of attack, and all sorts of claims all the while Meta is in court for copyright violation, anthropic has had to settle a case with authors. With distillation "attacks" at least they paid API fees.
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Anthropic had to settle with authors because they literally pirated books! Their behavior regarding distillation is genuinely beyond parody.
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Tell me, where did OpenAI and Anthropic got their training data? From public sources using legitimate means? Don't make me laugh.
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Both. Both are good. Anyway this shows how full of shit Anthropic are - if Mythos was so advanced as they claim - distillation attacks just wouldn't work.