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Usage Limit Obfuscation

Complaints that subscription multipliers (5x, 10x, 20x) are meaningless without knowing base limits, frustration that actual token quotas are never clearly communicated

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Users describe managing Anthropic’s vague subscription limits as an "exhausting" experience akin to "calorie counting" or playing a "slot machine," where the true value of 5x or 20x multipliers remains obscured by a lack of baseline transparency. This frustration is compounded by sudden "peak hour" cuts and the suspicion that newer, more token-heavy models are effectively devaluing existing plans, leading many to feel "gaslit" by the company’s inconsistent communication. Consequently, a growing number of users are threatening to pivot toward competitors like OpenAI, who are perceived as leveraging more predictable quotas and strategic limit increases to capitalize on this mounting dissatisfaction.

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Just last week. They cut off openclaw. And they added a price increased fast mode. And they announced today new features that are not included with max subscriptions. They are short 5GW roughly and scrambling to add it.
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I used Opus 4.7 for about 15 minutes on the auto effort setting. It nicely implemented two smallish features, and already consumed 100% of my session limit on the $20 plan. See you again in five hours.
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2 weeks ago the rolling session usage plummeted to borderline unusable. I'd say I get a weekly output equivalent to 2 session windows before change.
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Funny because many people here were so confident that OpenAI is going to collapse because of how much compute they pre-ordered. But now it seems like it's a major strategic advantage. They're 2x'ing usage limits on Codex plans to steal CC customers and it seems to be working. I'm seeing a lot of goodwill for Codex and a ton of bad PR for CC. It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute related.
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Is that 2x still going on I thought that ended in early April
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Different plan. The old 2x has been discontinued, and the bonus is now (temporarily) available for the new $100 plan users in an effort, presumably, to entice them away from Anthropic.
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For the $200 users, it never ended.
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It’s for Pro users only, I think the 2x is up to May 31.
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They did it again to "celebrate" the release of the $100 plan.
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On plus?
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Their top tier plan got a 3x limit boost. This has been the first week ever where I haven't run out of tokens.
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Personally I find using and managing Claude sessions and limits is getting exhausting and feels similar to calorie counting. You think you are going to have an amazing low calories meal only to realize the meal is full of processed sugars and you overshot the limit within 2-3 bites. Now "you have exhausted your limit for this time. Your session limits resets in next 4 hrs".
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Yep, it just feels terrible, the usage bars give me anxiety, and I think that's in their interest as they definitely push me towards paying for higher limits. Won't do that, though.
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so even with a new tokenizer that can map to more tokens than before, their answer is still just "you're not managing your context well enough" "Opus 4.7 uses an updated tokenizer that [...] can map to more tokens—roughly 1.0–1.35× depending on the content type. [...] Users can control token usage in various ways: by using the effort parameter, adjusting their task budgets, or prompting the model to be more concise."
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Strange. Opus 4.6 has been great for me. On Max 20x
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Yep, I'll wait for the GPT answer to this. If we're lucky OpenAI will release a new GPT 5.5 or whatever model in the next few days, just like the last round. I have been getting better results out of codex on and off for months. It's more "careful" and systematic in its thinking. It makes less "excuses" and leaves less race conditions and slop around. And the actual codex CLI tool is better written, less buggy and faster. And I can use the membership in things like opencode etc without drama. For March I decided to give Claude Code / Opus a chance again. But there's just too much variance there. And then they started to play games with limits, and then OpenAI rolled out a $100 plan to compete with Anthropic's. I'm glad to see the competition but I think Anthropic has pissed in the well too much. I do think they sent me something about a free month and maybe I will use that to try this model out though.
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Its because llm companies are literally building quasi slot machines, their UI interfaces support this notion, for instance you can run a multiplier on your output x3,x4,5, Like a slot machine. Brain fried llm users are behaving like gamblers more and more everyday (its working). They have all sorts of theories why one model is better than another, like a gambler does about a certain blackjack table or slot machine, it makes sense in their head but makes no sense on paper. Don't use these technologies if you can't recognize this, like a person shouldn't gamble unless they understand concretely the house has a statistical edge and you will lose if you play long enough. You will lose if you play with llms long enough too, they are also statistical machines like casino games. This stuff is bad for your brain for a lot of people, if not all.
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That was the carrot, but it was followed immediately by the stick (5 hour session limits were halved during peak hours)
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> Is that why Anthropic recently gave out free credits for use in off-hours? That was the carrot for the stick. The limits and the issues were never officially recognized or communicated. Neither have been the "off-hours credits". You would only know about them if you logged in to your dashboard. When is the last time you logged in there?
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More like 2 hours considering these usage limits
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No, I am happy with the results. For a first test, it did seem like it burned through the usage even faster than usual. GitHub Copilot’s 7.5x billing factor over 3x with Opus 4.6 seems to suggest it indeed consumes more tokens. Now I’m just waiting for OpenAI to show their hand before deciding which of the plans to upgrade from the $20 to the $100 plan.
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Have they effectively communicated what a 20x or 10x Claude subscription actually means? And with Claude 4.7 increasing usage by 1.35x does that mean a 20x plan is now really a 13x plan (no token increase on the subscription) or a 27x plan (more tokens given to compensate for more computer cost) relative to Claude Opus 4.6?
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Anthropic isn't going to give us that information. It's not actually static, it depends on subscription demand and idle compute available.
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so it's all "it depends" as a business offering, lmao. all marketing
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The more efficient tokenizer reduces usage by representing text more efficiently with fewer tokens. But the lack of transparancy does indeed mean Anthropic could still scale down limits to account for that.
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a few months ago it was for weekly: pro = 5m tokens, 5x = 41m tokens, 20x = 83m tokens making 5x the best value for the money (8.33x over pro for max 5x). this information may be outdated though, and doesn't apply to the new on peak 5h multipliers. anything that increases usage just burns through that flat token quota faster.
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I am 90% sure it's looking at month long usage trends now and punishing people who utilize 80%+ week over week. It's the only way to explain how some people burn through their limit in an hour and others who still use it a lot get through their hourly limits fine.
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It's hard to say. Admittedly I'm a heavy user as I intentionally cap out my 5x plan every week - I've personally found that I get more usage being on older versions of CC and being very vigilant on context management. But nobody can say for sure, we know they have A/B test capabilities from the CC leaks so it's just a matter of turning on a flag for a heavy user.
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wait. that's insanity. where did you get those numbers from? the 5x plan is obviously the right place to be...
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someone did the math and posted it somewhere, I forgot where, searching for it again just provides the numbers i remember seeing. at the time i remembered what it was like on pro vs 5x and it felt correct. again, it may not be representative of today.
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Interestingly github-copilot is charging 2.5x as much for opus 4.7 prompts as they charged for opus 4.6 prompts (7.5x instead of 3x). And they're calling this "promotional pricing" which sounds a lot like they're planning to go even higher. Note they charge per-prompt and not per-token so this might in part be an expectation of more tokens per prompt. https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-16-claude-opus-4-7-is-...
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> Opus 4.7 will replace Opus 4.5 and Opus 4.6 Promotional pricing that will probably be 9x when promotion ends, and soon to be the only Opus option on github, that's insane
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Not that anybody can actually use it though, as a large percentage of Copilot users are facing seemingly random multi-day rate limits. https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/15/github_copilot_rate_l...
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I've been using up way more tokens in the past 10 days with 4.6 1M context. So I've grown wary of how Anthropic is measuring token use. I had to force the non-1M halfway through the week because I was tearing through my weekly limit (this is the second week in a row where that's happened, whereas I never came CLOSE to hitting my weekly limit even when I was in the $100 max plan). So something is definitely off. and if they're saying this model uses MORE tokens, I'm getting more nervous.
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In GitHub Copilot it costs 7.5x whereas Opus 4.6 is 3x
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just my perspective: i pay $20/month and i hit usage limits regularly. have never experienced performance degradation. in fact i have been very happy with performance lately. my experience has never matched that of those saying model has been intentionally degraded. have been using claude a long time now (3 years). i do find usage limits frustrating. should prob fork out more...
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If Claude AI is so good at coding, why can't Anthropic use it to improve Claude's uptime and fix the constant token quota issues?
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Looks to me like a mob of humans, angry they've been deceived by ambiguous communications, product nerfing, surprisingly low usage limits, and an appallingly sycophantic overconfident coding agent
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Been on 10/15 hours a day sessions since january 31st. Last few days were horrendous. Thinking about dropping 20x.
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What’s the default context window? Seems extremely short.
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Excited to use 1 prompt and have my whole 5-hour window at 100%. They can keep releasing new ones but if they don't solve their whole token shrinkage and gaslighting it is not gonna be interesting to se.
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on Tuesday, with 4.6, I waited for my 5 hour window to reset, asked it to resume, and it burned up all my tokens for the next 5 hour window and ran for less than 10 seconds. I’ve never cancelled a subscription so fast.
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Who cares about a new model you can’t even use?
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This is the first new model from Anthropic in a while that I'm not super enthused about. Not because of the model, I literally haven't opened the page about it, I can already guess what it says ("Bigger, better, faster, stronger"), but because of the company. I have enjoyed using Claude Code quite a bit in the past but that has been waning as of late and the constant reports of nerfed models coupled with Anthropic not being forthcoming about what usage is allowed on subscriptions [0] really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'll probably give them another month but I'm going to start looking into alternatives, even PayG alternatives. [0] Please don't @ me, I've read every comment about how it _is clear_ as a response to other similar comments I've made. Every. Single. One. of those comments is wrong or completely misses the point. To head those off let me be clear: Anthropic does not at all make clear what types of `claude -p` or AgentSDK usage is allowed to be used with your subscription. That's all I care about. What am I allowed to use on my subscription. The docs are confusing, their public-facing people give contradictory information, and people commenting state, with complete confidence, completely wrong things. I greatly dislike the Chilling Effect I feel when using something I'm paying quite a bit (for me) of money for. I don't like the constant state of unease and being unsure if something might be crossing the line. There are ideas/side-projects I'm interested in pursuing but don't because I don't want my account banned for crossing a line I didn't know existed. Especially since there appears to be zero recourse if that happens. I want to be crystal clear: I am not saying the subscription should be a free-for-all, "do whatever you want", I want clear lines drawn. I increasingly feeling like I'm not going to get this and so while historically I've prefered Claude over ChatGPT, I'm considering going to Codex (or more likely, OpenCode) due to fewer restrictions and clearer rules on what's is and is not allowed. I'd also be ok with kind of warning so that it's not all or nothing. I greatly appreciate what Anthropic did (finally) w.r.t. OpenClaw (which I don't use) and the balance they struck there. I just wish they'd take that further.
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Gemini and Codex already scored higher on benchmarks than Opus 4.6 and they recently added a $100 tier with limited 2x limits, that's their answer and it seems people have caught on.