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Urban Walkability Concerns

Worry that autonomous vehicles will damage walkable urban areas, arguments that self-driving cars will increase car usage and harm city design

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The debate over autonomous vehicles reveals a deep divide between those who fear a car-centric "dystopia" and those who see the technology as a necessary alternative to failing public transit. While critics warn that ubiquitous self-driving cars will further erode the urban fabric and discourage walkable density, proponents argue that many cities are already so car-dependent that these vehicles offer a superior solution to inefficient bus and rail systems. Others remain skeptical that automation will fundamentally change city life, noting that physical congestion remains the ultimate limit on urban design regardless of who—or what—is behind the wheel. Ultimately, the discussion highlights a clash between the desire to preserve traditional urbanism and the practical need for reliable transportation in environments where walkability has already been lost.

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I honestly hope that they do not succeed in the end. Ubiquitous self driving cars will spell the end of what's left of walkable areas in North America and bring about (in time) similar destruction of the urban fabric to Europe and elsewhere. I'm not very articulate and English is my second language but this video below is really worth watching before we all swallow as an axiom the idea that autonomous cars are going to be a good thing: https://youtu.be/040ejWnFkj0?si=-iffWU43sxwviD5t
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I don't even know what areas of the United States I would consider "walkable". I live in San Francisco, don't own a car, we have "pretty good" public transit, and it's still absolutely miserable getting around. It takes me 40 minutes to go from Outer Sunset to downtown by muni. There are many locations in this city that I can physically jog to faster than public transit. I can appreciate this technology might negatively impact other countries more heavily, but, for me, it's easily the most exciting tech I interact with and I'm rooting for it whole-heartedly. I'm at around 1000 miles logged on Waymo and am part of their beta tester program for freeway usage. I also think that post-Covid remote work has probably damaged incentives for increasing the density of cities more so than anything autonomous vehicles will do. San Francisco is actively cutting bus routes, bus density, and threatening to significantly cut BART stops due to budget constraints and reduction in ridership. It's odd because I do get where you're coming from, and I feel like I should be your target audience, but, for me, the ship sailed so long ago that I struggle to relate to your position.
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Disagree. A city is walkable because it is dense: daily destinations like your grocery store is close enough to walk to. But density implies congestion for cars because if everyone is in a car the roads will be too congested. This happens regardless of whether we have a human driver driving the car alone, or a human sitting inside a Waymo as a passenger. Congestion happens either way. Waymo does not solve the congestion problem, and therefore will not have any affect on the walkability of cities.
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Disagree. A city is walkable because it is dense: daily destinations like your grocery store is close enough to walk to. But density implies congestion for cars because if everyone is in a car the roads will be too congested. This happens regardless of whether we have a human driver driving the car alone, or a human sitting inside a Waymo as a passenger. Congestion happens either way. Waymo does not solve the congestion problem, and therefore will not have any affect on the walkability of cities.
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Are you implying that stopping Waymo will make auto companies more likely to endorse walkable areas?
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No, it's orthogonal. But cars that can drive everywhere will show up everywhere, all of the time. Watch the video in its entirety. It makes very strong arguments for why this is a dystopia in the making.