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1. BGP Technical Analysis
Related: Detailed discussion of AS prepending, route leaks, RPKI filtering, autonomous system paths, and whether the observed anomalies represent deliberate attacks or routine misconfigurations. Experts note CANTV's normal prepending behavior and loose routing policies.
2. Nuclear Proliferation Incentives
Related: Arguments that the Venezuela operation demonstrates the value of nuclear deterrence, comparisons to Ukraine giving up nukes, North Korea's strategy, and predictions that more nations will pursue nuclear capabilities as protection against US intervention.
3. MAD and Deterrence Theory
Related: Debates about mutual assured destruction effectiveness, second-strike capabilities, nuclear triads, strategic ambiguity in nuclear policy, and whether nuclear threats are credible when leadership capture is possible.
4. Cyber Operations in Warfare
Related: Discussion of CYBERCOM involvement, cyber attacks preceding kinetic military actions, potential for disrupting power grids, and the integration of cyber capabilities with traditional military operations.
5. International Law Erosion
Related: Concerns about precedent set by extrajudicial capture of a head of state, sovereignty questions, comparisons to potential operations against other nations, and implications for international norms.
6. European Response Weakness
Related: Criticism of EU's passive response to US actions, discussion of strongly-worded letters versus action, calls for European nuclear deterrent, and debate about European political unity and capability.
7. Inside Job Speculation
Related: Theories about Venezuelan government or military cooperation with the US operation, discussion of palace coups, negotiated exits, and intelligence human sources enabling the rapid capture.
8. Trump Administration Statements
Related: Analysis of Trump's claims about capabilities, skepticism about his technical accuracy, references to his tendency to leak classified information, and parsing official statements about the operation.
9. North Korea Deterrence Model
Related: Discussion of DPRK's nuclear strategy as successful deterrence, artillery threat to Seoul, Chinese protection, and how isolated nations maintain security through asymmetric capabilities.
10. Pakistan Vulnerability
Related: Analysis of US contingency plans for Pakistan's nuclear arsenal, discussion of Pakistan's limited ability to threaten US homeland, and the role of China in regional deterrence.
11. Network Infrastructure Security
Related: Discussion of BGP insecurity, RPKI adoption, the role of transit providers like Sparkle in enabling route manipulation, and publicly available BGP monitoring data.
12. Venezuela Military Capabilities
Related: Assessment of Venezuelan air defense, F-16 fleet status, why there was minimal resistance to US helicopters, and the asymmetry between US and Venezuelan military power.
13. Greenland and Denmark Threats
Related: Concerns about US threats to Greenland, Danish PM statements, parallels to Venezuela operation, and potential future US territorial aggression against allies.
14. China and Russia Response
Related: Analysis of why China and Russia didn't defend Maduro, differences between alignment and actual protection, comparison to Chinese commitment to North Korea.
15. Intelligence Collection via BGP
Related: Theory that routing traffic through controlled transit points enables passive intelligence collection, mapping critical infrastructure dependencies, and pre-kinetic reconnaissance.
16. Encrypted Client Hello
Related: Technical aside about DNS HTTPS records, ECH implementation for privacy, SNI leaks, and implications for censorship circumvention and surveillance.
17. Operation Timeline Correlation
Related: Chronological analysis connecting BGP anomalies to subsequent military events, questioning causation versus correlation, and the value of timing analysis in OSINT.
18. Tactical vs Strategic Nuclear Use
Related: Discussion of escalation ladders, limited nuclear strikes versus full exchanges, whether tactical nuclear use would trigger strategic retaliation.
19. Civilian Infrastructure Targeting
Related: References to attacks on power grids, comparison to Russian attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure, graphite bombs, and the normalization of infrastructure warfare.
20. HN Moderation Politics
Related: Meta-discussion about downvoting patterns, flagged comments, alleged political bias in moderation, and concerns about suppression of Trump-critical content.
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"id": "46507849",
"text": "From where would an hypothetical operation to kidnap Kim be launched? Likely from SK or Japan, right? So yes, China could retaliate.\n\nThe operation against Maduro was launched from countries in the region aligned with the US."
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"id": "46507971",
"text": "Us has these nifty things called aircraft carriers, which were used to capture Maduro as well. They can be in international waters, the choppers fly quite far. China would not retaliate against the US."
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"id": "46508004",
"text": "That is a bold assertion to make considering China literally did retaliate against the US in North Korea once already, to the tune of war. Kidnapping heads of states is an act of war. Venezuela can't defend itself, but China certainly will do whatever is necessary to secure its vassal if the alternative is NK collapsing and having US military bases on its border.\n\nYou also rule out the possibility of an invasion of Seoul, as though it would be \"unfair\" -- when you're advocating for and actively in the process of tearing whatever remains of the concept of international law to shreds, what makes you think PRC would be inclined to play nice?"
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"id": "46508067",
"text": "Other than by launching nukes (and getting 10x on themselves) China has no capability to attack the US. I don't think attacking SK is unlikely because it's \"unfair\", but rather because there's no incentive to do so. The concept of \"if you attack Cuba we'll attack Europe\" is an old playbook for the commies, and I think was always a bluff."
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"id": "46508160",
"text": "My point is that since in this scenario SK would likely be involved in some capacity (granting safe passage, harboring US planes, etc) they would suffer retaliation by NK and possibly China.\n\nI don't see what's unlikely about this, it's basically NK's defense strategy."
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"id": "46508076",
"text": "China knows about carriers, and tracks them carefully. They have built a variety of weapons to sink them, too, but I don’t think they’d need to use them: note how the raid on Maduro went so quietly that people have been looking for evidence that some of the Venezuelan military were in on it? North Korea has built up a lot more paranoia and China wouldn’t need to sink a carrier, simply ensuring that the NK military knows what’s coming as soon as planes take off and communicates that in a way which makes it impossible for any potentially disloyal faction to act short of declaring a coup (you can’t “accidentally” miss something the entire chain of command knows about). I detest the NK government but I’d expect that to be a much bloodier fight, especially after a huge warning."
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"id": "46508146",
"text": "> Us has these nifty things called aircraft carriers, which were used to capture Maduro as well.\n\nIt wasn't just carriers in Maduro's case. The operation was carried from multiple places, including out of Caribbean countries aligned with the US. The US was literally signing deals with those countries months in advance.\n\nWho would those countries be in an hypothetical NK strike? Because those countries would suffer retaliation."
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"id": "46507604",
"text": "This is only partially true.\n\nChina's primary concern is resource extraction from Venezuela, which is why Trump immediately clarified that they'd make sure China still got their oil deliveries.\n\nRussia is stretched way too thin right now to do anything meaningful about it.\n\nVenezuela was basically being run by Cuba. Maduro was really only a figurehead. The military and government was functionally run by imported Cubans which is why a coup wasn't possible."
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"id": "46507897",
"text": "What's Trump's kill count at, just to move media focus away from the Trump-Epstein files."
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"id": "46507981",
"text": "Nowhere near Maduro's by any reasonable threshold or metric. Not even the most hardcore TDS in-patients claim otherwise."
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"id": "46508016",
"text": "Well, that's fine then, as long as the dictator you support murdered fewer people."
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"id": "46508484",
"text": "It will increase the desire for nukes, but also increase the hesitation to seek them now that credibility and capability (particularly what modern intelligence is capable of) are demonstrated. Hard to say how this nets off."
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"id": "46505753",
"text": "From bgp hijacking? Almost certainly not.\n\nIt would probably rule out the type of decapitation strike the US did, but bgp hijacking is way way below on the escalation ladder."
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"id": "46505813",
"text": "Nuclear capability wouldn't necessarily rule out this kind of a decapitation strike, it's just that it's very hard to imagine this kind of an operation actually being successful in any nuclear-capable country.\n\nThe US couldn't just fly a bunch of helicopters to Pyongyang or Tehran and do the same within 30 minutes. Most likely every single one of those helicopters would end up being shot down."
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"id": "46505918",
"text": "Nuclear capability by itself isn't a complete deterrent. It has been widely reported that the US military has made contingency plans for a decapitation strike and seizure or destruction of nuclear weapons in Pakistan in case the situation turns really bad there. Real deterrence requires a credible second-strike capability on survivable platforms such as submarines."
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"id": "46506229",
"text": "> the US military has made contingency plans for a decapitation strike and seizure or destruction of nuclear weapons in Pakistan in case the situation turns really bad there. Real deterrence requires a credible second-strike capability on survivable platforms such as submarines.\n\nThe existence of a plan does not equate to the feasibility of its execution. A submarine-based deterrent is indeed the \"gold standard\" for survivability, but it is not the only standard. There is enough pain for the US that they wouldn't actually attack Pakistan."
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"id": "46506242",
"text": ">There is enough pain for the US that they wouldn't actually attack Pakistan.\n\nThe US does have the advantage that the surviving Pakistani nukes might very well end up flying to India instead :)"
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"id": "46507282",
"text": "> There is enough pain for the US that they wouldn't actually attack Pakistan\n\nThese are the states whose Senators are in play this year [1].\n\nLet's say Trump decides it's fuck-around-with-Islamabad-o'clock. He fucks around. Pakistan nukes at India. How many of those Senate seats flip as a result? I'm going to guess none.\n\nLet's go one step further. Pakistan nukes Al Udeid and Camp Arifjan (both theoretically within range of their Shaheen-III). American troops are killed. Does the President's party lose any seats? At that point, I'd bet on a rally-'round-the-flag effect.\n\nThe truth is there isn't political downside to the President fucking around with Pakistan. Its nuclear deterrent isn't designed to contain America. And it can't threaten us with maybe the one thing that could make Trump suffer, a refugee crisis.\n\n[1] https://www.270towin.com/2026-senate-election/"
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"id": "46507395",
"text": "> Let's say Trump decides it's fuck-around-with-Islamabad-o'clock. He fucks around. Pakistan nukes at India. How many of those Senate seats flip as a result? I'm going to guess none.\n\nIf America does something to pakistan, then pakistan wouldn't bomb India but rather America\n\nIn your scenario India did literally nothing. I know the rivalry but even then India has its own nukes and if India wasn't part of the plan then case would be on America\n\nA much more likely scenario is that Pakistan's military would take over (Pakistan has never been really stable after its independence) and their ties with china would grow and China would feel threatened as well and if things go the same as venezuela that is that Trump says that they would control pakistan for time being (similar to venezuela) then China would be genuinely pissed and a WW3 conflict can arise considering China could send their military there and the possibility of nuke could be a choice if the war really happens between America/China but the possibility of it is really really slim and depends on how the war goes."
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"id": "46507918",
"text": ">If America does something to pakistan, then pakistan wouldn't bomb India but rather America\n\nThis is a mistaken assumption. It is very likely that the nukes would always fly to India unless the US somehow communicated their intent before acting.\n\nIn a situation where you're launching nukes in retaliation, you're usually not waiting very long to think about where you're going to be sending them to."
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"id": "46508046",
"text": "> then pakistan wouldn't bomb India but rather America\n\nThis isn't an option. Not within a nuclear window. The only bases within range are Al Udeid and Camp Arifjan. Hence its inclusion in the above scenario.\n\n> then China would be genuinely pissed and a WW3 conflict can arise\n\nThis is tantamount to saying Pakistan can't actually retaliate. Which is my point. Pakistan's nuclear deterrent doesn't actually deter America. China does."
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"id": "46508156",
"text": "Huh? How would Pakistan do that exactly? They have zero capability to strike the US homeland. In theory they might be able to hit a US military base in the region but even doing that successfully would require an extraordinary level of luck."
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"id": "46508296",
"text": ">but even doing that successfully would require an extraordinary level of luck.\n\nOn a normal day it'd probably not be a huge problem for Pakistani ballistic missiles to penetrate those bases’ own air defenses. However if the US was planning a strike, there'd certainly be Aegis BMD coverage there, which would be a problem. It's possible they'd even deploy THAAD to protect some bases."
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"id": "46506071",
"text": "For nuclear deterrence to work in situations like this, it'd also be preferable to have sufficient conventional capabilities that your leadership isn't decapitated before you even notice it's happening. If the attacker is also nuclear-capable, there's little incentive for second person in the chain of command to kill themselves.\n\nSimilarly, if a head of state is killed by poison or other similar means, you could hardly expect nuclear retaliation when their successor later discovers what happened."
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"id": "46506468",
"text": "Didn't we just do something like that in Iran? Not helicopters, but we still secured the airspace just the same."
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"id": "46506688",
"text": "Securing airspace for fancy stealth bombers is rather different from securing airspace for helicopters you can shoot down with just about anything."
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"id": "46508464",
"text": "If you mean during the israel-iran war, israel was allegedly using non-stealth planes once the airspace was secure.\n\nStill probably quite a bit different then helicopter inserted decapitation strike."
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"id": "46506302",
"text": "Maybe Pakistan, or Israel."
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"id": "46506678",
"text": "Well yes, the US could certainly easily kidnap leaders of friendly countries. It'd also presumably be very unlikely to result in a nuclear response from either."
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"id": "46506206",
"text": "Honestly from what we learned in the earlier attacks on Iran the USA probably could take a quick trip over to Tehran and grab the Ayatollah."
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"id": "46506780",
"text": "I think clanky covered this pretty well, but dropping bombs from high altitude stealth bombers and fighter jets is very very far from actually delivering and extracting soldiers from a location.\n\nThe US could probably bomb even Beijing, it doesn't really tell you anything that they were able to bomb Iran also."
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"id": "46506618",
"text": "It's odd that Iran was able to continue launching waves of ballistic missiles and drones at Israel after they had supposedly lost so much control over their skies that it would have been possible to hover a Chinook over Tehran for 5 minutes."
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"id": "46505887",
"text": ">It's extremely difficult to believe that the US could fly a bunch of helicopters to Pyongyang or Tehran and do the same within 30 minutes.\n\nWould your answer change if China were somehow guaranteed to not intervene? Because I'm not sure the obstacle here is North Korean defenses, so much as Chinese intervention.\n\nTehran? I think it'd go more or less like Caracas did."
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"id": "46506003",
"text": ">Would your answer change if China were somehow guaranteed to not intervene? Because I'm not sure the obstacle here is North Korean defenses, so much as Chinese intervention.\n\nNo. The obstacle isn't Chinese intervention, the obstacle is that such an operation would have to be significantly larger and it would take longer. There would be much more air defense assets to suppress, and some of them would be impossible to effectively defeat.\n\nA helicopter assault on either of those cities would in the most optimistic scenario take hours of preparatory bombing, which would give a plenty of time for nuclear retaliation by North Korea. Both countries would also certainly have better safeguarding mechanisms for their heads of state, during that bombing they would be evacuated and now you'd probably be looking at the very least at a weeks-long operation.\n\nAssassination is a different thing, but I would suspect that for purely psychological reasons a rapid kidnapping operation like this would be far less likely to invite anything more than symbolic retaliation than a single targeted missile strike. This kind of operation would be far more confusing for the enemy than a simple assassination, and the window during which for example nuclear retaliation might make sense tends to be rather small.\n\n>Tehran? I think it'd go more or less like Caracas did.\n\nTehran doesn't have a fancy air defense network, but it does have one. They'd have shot down every single helicopter. You don't even need fancy missiles, a bunch of .50cal machine guns will do the trick."
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"id": "46508260",
"text": "The reporting suggests there was some kind of deal struck between the US and elements of the VZ administration, and even nuclear capability doesn't prevent that"
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"id": "46506191",
"text": ">I assume that nuclear capability would rule out a target from this kind of snatch operation\n\nWhy would it?\n\n1. \"Nuclear capability\" is not binary. The available delivery mechanisms and the defensive capabilities of your adversary matter a lot.\n\n2. MAD constrains both sides. It's unlikely that an unpopular Head of State getting kidnapped would warrant a nuclear first strike especially against a country like (Trump's) America, which would not hesitate to glass your whole country in response.\n\n3. It's extremely risky to \"try\" a nuke, because even if it's shot down, does it mean your enemy treats it as a nuclear strike and responds as if it had landed? That's a very different equation from conventional missiles. E.g. Iran sends barrages of missiles because they expect most of them to be shot down. It's probably not calculating a scenario where all of them land and Israel now wants like-for-like revenge."
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"id": "46507572",
"text": "> an unpopular Head of State\n\nHeads of state are generally pretty good at delegating the C&C of their nukes to people they are pretty popular with. That's orthogonal to popularity polls of the populace."
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"id": "46508351",
"text": "Yeah but those people read the popularity polls as well. If you kill or capture the leader, there isn’t much upside in retaliation against a massively more powerful enemy. The best move is to cozy up to whomever is in power next."
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"id": "46508594",
"text": "You pick people for that job that aren't that concerned with the popularity polls, and who's main value add is a willingness to turn the key when told to. Either directly or because they were previously told to follow the process."
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"id": "46505708",
"text": "Counterpoint is that Ukraine, Qaddafi, and Assad already demonstrated the significance of maintaining certain capabilities. Vzla didn't have those capabilities before, much less publicly depreciate them."
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"id": "46505826",
"text": "Ukraine wouldn’t have been invaded if they hadn’t given up their nuclear weapons."
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"id": "46506002",
"text": "I have a few questions about that:\n\n1. Did Ukraine control the nukes, or did Russia?\n\n2. Could Ukraine keep them working on its own?\n\n3. If nukes stop invasions, why do nuclear countries still get attacked?"
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"id": "46506359",
"text": "1) It's complex. Formally, Moscow controlled the launch codes. However Ukraine designed and built the ICBMs, and are near the top of nations with the highest nuclear physicist per capita ratio.\n\nOn top of that the Soviet nuclear lockout systems are rumored to be much simpler than the American ones. Whereas the American system is rumored to be something like the decryption key for the detonation timings (without which you have at best a dirty bomb), the Soviet lockout mechanism is rumored to just be a lockout device with a 'is locked' signal going to the physics package. If that's all true, taking control of those nukes from a technical perspective would be on the order of hotwiring a 1950s automobile.\n\nTaking physical control would have been more complex, but everything was both more complex and in some ways a lot simpler as the wall fell. It would have ultimately been a negotiation.\n\n2) See above.\n\n3) Which military nuclear power has been attacked by the kind of adversary that you can throw a nuke at? Yes, it doesn't remove all threats, but no solution does. Removing a class of threat (and arguably the most powerful class of threat in concrete terms) is extremely valuable."
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"id": "46506999",
"text": "> However Ukraine designed and built the ICBMs\n\nYour computer is designed and built in China therefore your computer belongs to Chinese and China. Right?\n\n> See above\n\nMaybe you should see how good the Ukraine was at keeping their naval assets after they used the totally legal methods to obtain them. Maybe then you would have a clue on how good they could had maintained them."
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"id": "46507173",
"text": "> Your computer is designed and built in China therefore your computer belongs to Chinese and China. Right?\n\nThe previous owner was the USSR, who ceased to exist, and who Ukraine was a part of.\n\n> Maybe you should see how good the Ukraine was at keeping their naval assets after they used the totally legal methods to obtain them. Maybe then you would have a clue on how good they could had maintained them.\n\nAre you talking about the ships that weren't originally that Russia mostly scuttled on their way out of Sevastopal, in addition to stuff like a 70% completed nuclear powered carrier that even Russia couldn't maintain the sister to, and didn't fit in any naval doctrine that made sense for Ukraine?"
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"id": "46507363",
"text": "> The previous owner was the USSR\n\nNot quite.\n\n> and who Ukraine was a part of\n\nOh, so there were some wedding contract what stated what in case the parties.. part - there would be the transfer and division of assets? When why Belorussia didn't received their part of the navy? Kazakhstan? Georgia? Baltics, because they surely \"were parts of USSR\"?\n\n> Are you talking about the ships that weren't originally\n\nThat weren't originally what ? I know you degraded to just throwing words with your blanket knowledge but again you can find out the fate of the ships the Ukraine used totally legit means to obtain from Russian Federation with a quite short trip to Wikipedia."
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"id": "46507514",
"text": "> Not quite.\n\nActually, exactly. We're specifically talking about the arsenal of the 43rd Rocket Army of the Soviet Strategic Rocket Forces. A force not reorganized until much later to be under the Russian Federation, and the relevant 1990 Budapest Memorandum occurred before the 1991 creation of the CIS.\n\nRather than a vague \"not quite\", would you care to elaborate?\n\n> Oh, so there were some wedding contract what stated what in case the parties.. part - there would be the transfer and division of assets? When why Belorussia didn't received their part of the navy? Kazakhstan? Georgia? Baltics, because they surely \"were parts of USSR\"?\n\nI think a divorce settlement is actually a pretty good model actually. Those other states rankly didn't have the means to keep them, but should have been otherwise compensated for that loss. However, as I described above, Ukraine literally designed and built large portions of these systems as was capable of keeping them.\n\n> That weren't originally what? I know you degraded to just throwing words with your blanket knowledge but again you can find out the fate of the ships the Ukraine used totally legit means to obtain from Russian Federation with a quite short trip to Wikipedia.\n\nI'm dyslexic and accidentally a word while editing. Are you incapable of telling what was meant by context, or where you just looking for a reason not to address the point made?"
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"id": "46507320",
"text": "> Your computer is designed and built in China therefore your computer belongs to Chinese and China. Right?\n\nThe question is whether china would be capable of maintaining the equipment they created and have physical possession of, not whether they can root it without physical access."
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"id": "46506317",
"text": "Has any nuclear state had their leader kidnapped? Or seen significant incursions?"
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"id": "46507605",
"text": "Most non-nuclear heads of state have never had their leader kidnapped, either."
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