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The following is content for you to summarize. Do not respond to the comments—summarize them. <topic> Civilian Infrastructure Targeting # References to attacks on power grids, comparison to Russian attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure, graphite bombs, and the normalization of infrastructure warfare. </topic> <comments_about_topic> 1. Was the OSRS economy affected by the strikes? I'm assuming they didn't disrupt internet access for most Venezuelan citizens but I have not looked into it yet. 2. Yes, it looks like it definitely was: https://x.com/eslischn/status/1104542595806609408 3. Unless I'm missing an update, it appears that this post is from 2019? 4. I'd say that an OSRS outage would be more likely to measurably affect the Venezuelan economy than the reverse. 5. Any osrs Venezuelan clans you’re looking to contact about this? 6. Realistically speaking you're going to die of starvation or get shot by marauding gangs, or die of cancer a few decades later from radiation in the food change. NukeMap [1] has good visualizations of the relative fireball vs. blast vs. thermal radiation vs. fallout radiuses. One thing that stands out: most of the suburbs is going to survive the initial nuclear exchange. At worst, they'll have a few broken windows. The problem is that if you eliminate ~20% of a nation's population, supply chains, continuity of government, and the economy aren't going to last long. Social organization breaks down much more widely than people die. The resultant pullback of all the trapping of society - reliable food supply, clean water, transportation infrastructure, electricity, heat - is going to kill many more people than the nukes will. [1] https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ 7. Not only 20% of the population, but wiping out cities is going to make everything grind to a halt. Best case , tiny pockets of social order is going to remain in very hard to reach, remote rural areas which also has local access to food. We are talking about maybe thousands of people in a population of hundreds of millions. The rest are in for a decade of pure hell. 8. What I mean is that cause and effect here could be different then the author thinks. We see some route changes, but those changes make no sense on their own since they wouldn't capture any traffic. That makes it more probable that BGP was not the attack, but that some other action caused this BGP anomalie as a side effect. For example, maybe some misconfiguration caused these routes to be published because another route was lost. Which could very well be the actual cyber attack, or the effect of jamming, or breaking some undersea cable, or turning off the power to some place. 9. Cyber-warfare capabilities on this level seem pretty horrific. What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? That seems extremely disorientating. What if you could simply turn off the power grid indefinitely? 10. Russia attacks Ukrainian power grid on a weekly basis. Not only with cyber-attacks but with actual bombs. Over Christmas 750k homes in Kyiv were without power or heating. This is not a hypothetical it's daily reality for millions of people in Ukraine. 11. > What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? I expect every major world power has a plan to (attempt to) do precisely that to their enemies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb > The US Navy used sea-launched Tomahawk missiles with Kit-2 warheads, involving reels of carbon fibers, in Iraq as part of Operation Desert Storm during the Gulf War in 1991, where it disabled about 85% of the electricity supply. The US Air Force used the CBU-94, dropped by F-117 Nighthawks, during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia on 2 May 1999, where it disabled more than 70% national grid electricity supply. I would not, however, take "Trump said something" as indicative of much. "It was dark, the lights of Caracas were largely turned off due to a certain expertise that we have, it was dark, and it was deadly" is both visibly untrue from the video evidence available, and is the precise sort of off-the-cuff low-fact statement he's prone to. 12. Russia tried. They haven’t managed to do anything very serious. 13. I don't think calling shutting down the internet horrific is appropriate at all in the context of bombings. 14. Ridiculous post. Power outages would kill a lot of people if sustained. A Carrington event would devastate modern society. </comments_about_topic> Write a concise, engaging paragraph (3-5 sentences) summarizing the key points and perspectives in these comments about the topic. Focus on the most interesting viewpoints. Do not use bullet points—write flowing prose.
Civilian Infrastructure Targeting # References to attacks on power grids, comparison to Russian attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure, graphite bombs, and the normalization of infrastructure warfare.
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