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The following is content for you to summarize. Do not respond to the comments—summarize them. <topic> Gatekeeping vs. Encouragement # The comment section illustrates a divide between experienced users who gatekeep the term 'coding' or mock the setup, and those who encourage the experimentation. While some dismiss the article as trivial, others defend the author's enthusiasm, noting that lowering the barrier to entry and finding new ways to engage with technology is positive, even if the underlying methods are not strictly new. </topic> <comments_about_topic> 1. There is an infamous "Dropbox comment" on HN that reads the same way as this comment. No idea is new, and novelty is almost never the point. I had seen people do similar things in the past but never approached it myself. Here is someone that has done the thinking for me and put it out there for free. I appreciate that. 2. Yeah, but the OP is more like the "all you have to do is rsync and cron job". It's an article about the relatively complex step by step process that people do to implement a functionality. It may be the inspiration for an analogous dropbox, but definitely not the dropbox article or post. A product that you could grab from the app store that does all of this out of the box would be the analogue to dropbox. That said, this would be interesting to someone who didn't know these tools could be stitched together in this way. I think that's a big part of why it's on the home page. 3. Y'all I'm as shocked as you are it's on the home page! I'm new to hacking (come from an electrical/nuclear engineering background but never did much with software). For reference, just learned what postgres was 2 months ago. Took a lot of tinkering to figure out but that's more a skill rather than complexity issue. Working from a laptop is certainly better, but was able to get good amount done (like building v1 of a backend and setting up a cloudflare tunnel for a PC) on a long bus ride where I would've gotten side eyes for using a laptop. I'm no doctor but I'll bet "Doom Coding" is still not healthy but it's better than doom scrolling on X. Thank you for the comments! I've been learning from these threads (Like tmux or dropbox article lore) 4. Why would it have to be novel? We now have a full interesting discussion about vibe coding on phones thanks to this GitHub writehub that we wouldn't have had otherwise. I haven't set up a vibe coding phone environment, nothing has stopped me at all as I agree it is really simple/"basic", but this post made me actually go do it. 5. People have all kinds of bad experiences with tech. The kids write off any thing they didn't invent or adopt as inadequate. It usually comes from the bad experience or poor exposure. Its hard to hate on them when it comes from a position of limited exposure. 6. Yeah, any outright dismissal of a perfectly reasonable idea like this smells of market opportunity. 7. I can no longer edit this comment but it wasn’t meant to criticize the author. This is a great post. They are sharing their experiences and more importantly, teaching others. Sorry if anyone, especially the author, took it this way. 8. durch - just starred this repo! Looking forward to testing it out as I learn how to build with multiple agents. I'm just starting out with building with Claude - after a friend made this post he sent me a Steve Yegge interview ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zuJyJP517Uw ). Absolutely loved it. I come from an electrical/nuclear engineering background - Yegge reminds me of the cool senior engineer who's young at heart and open to change. 9. If setting up a VPN is that difficult for you you may have bigger problems my friend. (I joke). But really I am surprised that a VPN is the part you take issue with. 10. I see no downsides. Seems like an actually useful udea. 11. This is genius! The tailscale vpn was stupid easy to setup (I'm a near novice and figured it out). An email interface with progress updates would be even better than doom coding. 12. You're vibe coding. Clearly what you're working on isn't of enough value to secure anyway. 13. It's amazing to me this is called coding at all. Who knew all project managers and business analysts coming up with business requirements were actually just coding gods sent from the future. 14. Just trying to help given that you responded. I'm happy to help you find solutions but the constraints might be too much, unfortunately. If you don't have a machine that can run local AI and don't have the funds to buy one then frankly it just isn't in the cards. But hey, if you don't want to use AI or at least willing to use non-local then the setup probably doesn't require you to spend a dime. 15. I remember when I started learning coding, and didn't have a computer. I literally used to use my phone to write code - terrible experience, but I was determined 16. Luckily I think in this day and age it’d be more viable and not as miserable as an experience - dare I say more accessible You can connect an external keyboard to your phone and if you can swing getting a cheap IPS panel that displays text clearly enough, you’d have a working set up Anyway, kudos to you, I love reading stories about determination 17. I remember when I started learning coding. I didn't have the Internet. It was also terrible and I was also determined. 18. I assume you’re joking, but I have a Cuban acquaintance who actually did something like this. He did everything on paper and even won a national coding competition without ever having actually used a computer. Of course, as soon as he had the opportunity to leave Cuba, he left for good. 19. there are going to be quite a lot of places where getting a laptop is a considerable expense 20. Why does it have to be a laptop, and why does it need to be new? There aren't that many places in 2025 where getting a phone with internet is significantly cheaper than getting some scrappy laptop or desktop. 21. >> There aren't that many places in 2025 where getting a phone with internet is significantly cheaper than getting some scrappy laptop or desktop. No, but it's not a choice between a phone and a laptop. You NEED a phone. So you use what you've got. I've done work helping developers in less developed countries and you frequently find they're sending screenshots of code they've written on phones. 22. I think I'll take any LLM slop code over the written-on-phone-by-"developers" slop code. 23. Having the means doesn't mean the would-be programmer is in charge of the purse. I got my start coding at the local library because my parents wouldn't get me my own computer until I was in high school. 24. There are countries where the market for PCs and laptops is really tiny and the stores sell them at markups compared to US/European prices. Many of these countries are low wage countries, too, so these markups have a big impact on affordability. 25. I assume he means people are too poor to have multiple devices, and if you only have one it's probably a phone. That said I'm dubious anyone who only has a phone is doing meaningful coding 26. There is this guy: https://github.com/OXY2DEV/markview.nvim/issues/216#issuecom... . I haven‘t used his plugin, but it seems quite popular (+3k stars). I guess ergonomics don‘t matter so much yet when you are young.. 27. Following that story as it happened, it was all on the phone with the phone keyboard and he somehow made multiple good Neovim plugins including that very popular one (which I use in multiple configs). 28. The initial version of Copyparty seems to have been written on a phone: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46056869 29. Maybe I'm just lacking in creativity, but I don't see the appeal of developing anything with less than 2 monitors and a full-sized keyboard. Even for those who find the act of coding intrinsically entertaining, do you want to dance so badly that you'll do so even if you can only use one leg? 30. I'll bite (even though I think the proposed setup is dumb tbh) : why do you need 2 monitors? Can't you just alt-tab from one window to another? FWIW I do code on the go and I 100% prefer to code at home with my neat setup... but also quite often when I'm on the move and inspiration strikes, I do enjoy having a way to tinker right here and there. 31. If you need this article to get the idea of using Claude Code from your phone, you won’t build anything substantial anyway. 32. Great! Another shallow dismissal is just what everyone needs right now! I don’t understand this kind of gate keeping. AI has been changing more rapidly than any other technology I have encountered in my life. It’s absolutely nobody’s fault for not keeping up with it or arriving late to the party, and telling them they should rather just stop because they won’t get it anyway is just awful behaviour. 33. Why? 34. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. But congrats on launching! 35. I too am dumfounded by this. Is it an off day? Have all the people that actually know how to do things with computers gone somewhere else? What is going on here? 36. It's all AI hype bro sycophants for the most part now. Oh, well. 37. Thanks! And great idea! I'm still new to hacking - definitely need to check out more of the open source tools out there 38. Very true! Was that Rumsfeld, right? Unknown unknowns? And thank you! I'm glad you appreciated the humor. I'm still a novice builder, so the thought of ssh-ing to my home computer from a plane geeks me out. I'm about 20 years late but I'm here now! 39. Account created 16 hours ago posting highly dubious AI hype? This user is almost certainly part of the intense astroturfing campaign likely financed by Anthropic that has been ongoing for days/weeks now. 40. Calling "telling the LLM what to do" coding is dishonest, and I have no respect for any of this. 41. just don't 42. Claude not needed to "code from anywhere you are" and certainly not from your phone. no LLM needed. no agents. Tailscale or any other VPN not needed use a laptop. (trying to do it with only a phone-factor UI is madness.) have a mobile-friendly ISP if desired or needed. solved. been solved for decades so much of the AI BS hyping is about inventing supposedly unsolved problems. like Google showing me ads to convince me to use Gemini to write a README. no thanks, kids, have been able to do that for many decades using only my brain, eyes, fingers and vi/vim 43. How do I use a laptop while standing on a train each day? It sounds like a laptop is sufficient for you, but I suspect (based on myself and other responses in this thread) that a laptop is not always viable for many people; this tutorial appears targeted toward those people. I’ve actually considered a neck/shoulder support for a laptop in the past but decided against it because it’d be cumbersome and make me a theft target. As for AI, personally speaking I use AI coding tools to allow me to continue enjoying some hobby side projects with less free time available with a kid. It’s been a massive boost to my happiness in a generally low stakes area. I’m curious to see if I can get a similar unlock on my short and interrupted commute times as well, which is why I (personally) find this article interesting. 44. dont try to code while standing on a train. one of many antpatterns a wise engineer should learn to avoid, as part of polishing our craft. also: dont juggle chainsaws, etc ;-) 45. but also dont try coding on a laptop. use a proper desktop, or better yet, get time on a mainframe. the problem has been solved forever, juat do work from the workplace at a dedicated terminal, built for doing that work at. 46. groan HN needs a mute/block feature so we can mute/block folks like you. toxic. get a life </comments_about_topic> Write a concise, engaging paragraph (3-5 sentences) summarizing the key points and perspectives in these comments about the topic. Focus on the most interesting viewpoints. Do not use bullet points—write flowing prose.
Gatekeeping vs. Encouragement # The comment section illustrates a divide between experienced users who gatekeep the term 'coding' or mock the setup, and those who encourage the experimentation. While some dismiss the article as trivial, others defend the author's enthusiasm, noting that lowering the barrier to entry and finding new ways to engage with technology is positive, even if the underlying methods are not strictly new.
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