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1. BGP Technical Analysis
Related: Discussion of AS path prepending, route leaks, traffic engineering practices, whether CANTV's routing behavior was normal or suspicious, and how BGP anomalies are typically caused by misconfigurations rather than attacks
2. Nuclear Deterrence Theory
Related: Extensive debate about whether nuclear weapons would have prevented the Venezuela operation, MAD doctrine, credible second-strike capability, the importance of nuclear triads, and whether small countries should pursue nuclear programs
3. Nuclear Proliferation Incentives
Related: Arguments that the Venezuela operation demonstrates the value of nuclear weapons for deterrence, comparisons to Ukraine giving up nukes, North Korea's strategy, and predictions of increased proliferation
4. DNS HTTPS Record Type
Related: Technical discussion about HTTPS DNS record types, Encrypted Client Hello (ECH), TLS 1.3, and how browsers detect HTTP3 support through DNS queries
5. North Korea's Nuclear Strategy
Related: Analysis of DPRK's nuclear program as rational deterrence, their underground bunkers, relationship with China, and comparison to other nuclear states' capabilities
6. Operation Logistics and Planning
Related: Speculation about whether the Venezuela operation was negotiated, involved insider help, palace coup assistance, and military planning details
7. EU Response and Weakness
Related: Criticism of European passivity toward U.S. aggression, calls for European nuclear deterrent, discussion of EU's political disunity and inability to respond effectively
8. Greenland and Canada Threats
Related: Concerns about Trump administration threatening Denmark over Greenland, potential for similar operations against allies, NATO Article 5 implications
9. Cyber Warfare Capabilities
Related: Discussion of CYBERCOM involvement, power grid attacks, comparison to Stuxnet, and the terrifying implications of state-level cyber attacks
10. Venezuela Military Resistance
Related: Questions about why Venezuelan air defenses didn't respond, speculation about corruption and insider betrayal, comparison of military capabilities
11. Chain of Command for Nukes
Related: Debate about whether nuclear launch orders would be followed for an unpopular leader, palace coups, and the human element in nuclear deterrence
12. Pakistan Nuclear Contingencies
Related: U.S. military planning for Pakistan scenarios, survivability of nuclear arsenals, and limitations of nuclear deterrence without proper safeguards
13. International Law Violations
Related: Discussion of sovereignty, just war principles, legitimacy of intervention against dictators, and international community response to U.S. actions
14. Trump Administration Claims
Related: Skepticism about Trump's statements regarding the operation, his history of leaking capabilities, and questionable accuracy of his technical claims
15. Russia-China Response
Related: Analysis of why Russia and China didn't defend Maduro, their actual relationship with Venezuela, and what this means for other authoritarian allies
16. Iran Air Defense Failure
Related: Discussion of Israeli strikes on Iran, how air defenses were disabled through sabotage and cyber warfare, lessons for other countries
17. Cloudflare Radar Data
Related: Technical discussion of using Cloudflare's BGP monitoring tools, route leak detection, and publicly available BGP datasets for analysis
18. Continuity of Government
Related: Historical analysis of U.S. bunker programs, airborne command posts, comparison to North Korean bunker strategy
19. HN Moderation and Politics
Related: Meta-discussion about downvoting, flagging of political comments, perceived bias in moderation, and astroturfing accusations
20. Traffic Engineering Legitimacy
Related: Technical argument that AS prepending is common practice for traffic management and the anomalies may be entirely routine
0. Does not fit well in any category
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"id": "46506387",
"text": "> When BGP traffic is being sent from point A to point B, it can be rerouted through a point C. If you control point C, even for a few hours, you can theoretically collect vast amounts of intelligence that would be very useful for government entities. The CANTV AS8048 being prepended to the AS path 10 times means there the traffic would not prioritize this route through AS8048, perhaps that was the goal?\n\nAS prepending is a relatively common method of traffic engineering to reduce traffic from a peer/provider. Looking at CANTV's (AS8048) announcements from outside that period shows they do this a lot.\n\nSince this was detected as a BGP route leak, it looks like CANTV (AS8048) propagated routes from Telecom Italia Sparkle (AS6762) to GlobeNet Cabos Sumarinos Columbia (AS52320). This could have simply been a misconfiguration.\n\nNothing nefarious immediately jumps out to me here. I don't see any obvious attempts to hijack routes to Dayco Telecom (AS21980), which was the actual destination. The prepending would have made traffic less likely to transit over CANTV assuming there was any other route available.\n\nThe prepending done by CANTV does make it slightly easier to hijack traffic destined to it (though not really to Dayco), but that just appears to be something they just normally do.\n\nThis could be CANTV trying to force some users of GlobeNet to transit over them to Dayco I suppose, but leaving the prepending in would be an odd way of going about it. I suppose if you absolutely knew you were the shortest path length, there's no reason to remove the prepending, but a misconfiguration is usually the cause of these things."
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"id": "46506274",
"text": "I guess one of the interesting things I learnt off this article(1) was that 7% of DNS query types served by 1.1.1.1 are HTTPS and started wondering what HTTPS query type was as I had only heard of A, MX, AAAA, SPF etc...\n\nApparently that is part of implementing ECH (Encrypted Client Hello) in TLS 1.3 where the DNS hosts the public key of the server to fully encrypt the server name in a HTTPS request. Since Nginx and other popular web servers don't yet support it, I suspect the 7% of requests are mostly Cloudflare itself.\n\n(1) https://radar.cloudflare.com/?ref=loworbitsecurity.com#dns-q..."
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"id": "46506831",
"text": "It’s also how browsers detect a website supports HTTP3. Browsers will request it just to check if they should connect to an https:// URL via HTTP3 (though they generally don’t block on it - they fallback to HTTP1/2 if it takes too long)."
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"id": "46507397",
"text": "> It’s also how browsers detect a website supports HTTP3\n\nIt's one way, but a H1/H2 connection can also be promoted to H3 via the alt-svc header. The DNS method is slightly better though since it potentially allows a client to utilize H3 immediately from the first request."
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"id": "46507565",
"text": "Caddy supports it, and has quite a bit written about it:\nhttps://caddyserver.com/docs/automatic-https#encrypted-clien..."
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"id": "46507568",
"text": "Caddy has supported it for several months now, although I do agree most the requests are in fact Cloudflare."
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"id": "46506406",
"text": "Wait, so you do not leak the host through DNS with this? I have not checked it out yet."
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"id": "46506515",
"text": "Encrypted DNS has existed for quite a while now through DNS over HTTPS, the missing link was that to connect to a website, you first had to send the server the hostname in plaintext to get the right public key for the site. So someone listening on the wire could not see your DNS requests but would effectively still get the site you connected to anyway.\n\nThe new development (encrypted client hello) is you no longer have to send the hostname. So someone listening in the middle would only see you connected to an AWS/etc IP. This will make blocking websites very difficult if they use shared services like cloudflare or cloud VPS hosting."
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"id": "46506888",
"text": "In principle, it means you could run multiple sites from the same IP and someone intercepting traffic to that IP (but not the client’s DNS path) couldn’t tell what site each connection was to. It mostly makes sense for CDNs, where the same IP will be used for many sites.\n\nIf you don’t use a CDN at all, the destination IP leaks what site you’re trying to connect to (if the domain is well known). If you use a CDN without ECH, you send an unencrypted domain name in the HTTPS negotiation so it’s visible there. ECH+CDN is an attempt to have the best of both worlds: your traffic to the site will not advertise what site you’re connecting to, but the IP can still be shared between a variety of sites.\n\nIt’ll be interesting to see how countries with lighter censorship schemes adapt - China etc. of course will just block the connection."
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"id": "46507692",
"text": "Even for China so-called \"overblocking\" where to censor a small thing you have to block a much larger thing, is a real concern with these technologies. There's a real trade here, you have to expend effort and destroy potential and in some cases the reward isn't worth it. You can interpret ECH as an effort to move the ratio, maybe China was willing to spend $5000 and annoy a thousand people to block a cartoon site criticising their internal policies, but is it willing to sped $50 000 and annoy a ten thousand people? How about half a million and 100K people ?"
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"id": "46506811",
"text": "My read is you still leak the host with DNS. This only prevents leaking the host with SNI. A useful piece but not at all the holy grail."
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"id": "46506528",
"text": "Adguard Home and others can be configured to complete your DNS requests over HTTPS (using, for example, https://dns.cloudflare.com/dns-query )."
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"id": "46507224",
"text": "That's not what this is about.\n\nHTTPS is the name of a protocol, which is mostly used to make the World Wide Web work, but we do lots of other things with it, such as DNS-over-HTTPS aka DoH.\n\nHowever HTTPS is also the name of a type of DNS record, this record contains everything you need to best reach the named HTTPS (protocol) server, and this is the type of record your parent didn't previously know about\n\nIn the boring case, say, 20 years ago, when you type https://some.name/stuff/hats.html into a web browser your browser goes \"Huh, HTTPS to some.name. OK, I will find out the IPv4 address of some.name, and it makes a DNS query asking A? some.name. The DNS server answers with an IPv4 address, and then as the browser connects securely to that IP address, it asks to talk to some.name, and if the remote host can prove it is some.name, the browser says it wants /stuff/hats.html\n\nNotice we have to tell the remote server who we hope they are - and it so happens eavesdroppers can listen in on this. This means Bad Guys can see that you wanted to visit some.name. They can't see that you wanted to read the document about hats, but they might be able to guess that from context, and wouldn't you rather they didn't know more than they need to?\n\nWith the HTTPS record, your web browser asks (over secure DNS if you have it) HTTPS? some.name and, maybe it gets a positive answer. If it does, the answer tells it not only where to try to connect, but also it can choose to provide instructions for a cover name to always use, and how to encrypt the real name, this is part of Encrypted Client Hello (or ECH)\n\nThen the web server tells the server that it wants to talk to the cover name and it provides an encrypted version of some.name. Eavesdroppers can't decrypt that, so if many people share the same endpoints then eavesdropper can't tell which site you were visiting.\n\nNow, if the server only contains documents about hats, this doesn't stop the Secret Hat Police from concluding that everybody connecting to that server is a Hat Pervert and needs to go to Hat Jail. But if you're a bulk host then you force such organisations to choose, they can enforce their rules equally for everything (You wanted to read News about Chickens? Too bad, Hat Jail for you) or they can accept that actually they don't know what people are reading (if this seems crazy, keep in mind that's how US Post worked for many years after Comstock failed, if you get a brown paper package posted to you, well, it's your business what is in there, and your state wasn't allowed to insist on ripping open the packaging to see whether it is pornography or communist propaganda)"
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"id": "46507536",
"text": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_over_HTTPS"
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"id": "46507375",
"text": "> so if many people share the same endpoints then eavesdropper can't tell which site you were visiting.\n\nWhich is why it is so important/useful to Cloudflare but of much lower utility to most nginx users."
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"id": "46505538",
"text": "I assume that nuclear capability would rule out a target from this kind of snatch operation, and that this event will add pressure to proliferate."
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"id": "46505634",
"text": "Indeed. The DPRK was right from the start. They always were.\n\nFor the longest time I thought they'd gone too far, but now we're the clowns putting on a show."
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"id": "46506221",
"text": "Sure, but there must always be a fear that the military and public would not want to die in a nuclear inferno to defend national sovereignty. And may tolerate a coupe instead. Which then reduces the madness and the deterrent effect. The extra step the Dprk have taken is to try and build bunkers so that the regime could survive the destruction of the country. A step further into madness that goes beyond what western countries have been willing to accept."
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"id": "46506715",
"text": "The US built a lot of bunkers like this back in the 1950's.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Weather_Emergency_Operat...\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raven_Rock_Mountain_Complex\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Greek_Island\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex\n\nWith the rise of solid fuel ICBM and then MIRV leading to the truly massive number of warheads pointed at the US, the US switched to airplanes for the most important continuity of government issues, figuring that the skies 30,000 above the US will largely be secure (presuming the plane is appropriately EMP shielded) due to the many US geographic advantages, and so it is the best place to ride out the initial attack and then take stock, get to somewhere safe, and figure out what to do from there.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Looking_Glass\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACAMO\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_E-6_Mercury\n\nBut the North Koreans can have no illusion that the skies above their country will be safe: there are several major enemy airbases a few minutes from their border, their entire airspace is routinely surveilled and powers hostile to them have made large investments in stealthy air superiority fighters, so the air is not a safe place for the DPRK continuity of government plans. The DPRK does have trains but I would not consider those safe in the event of a major war, since rails are difficult to keep secret.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taeyangho_armoured_train\n\nSo bunkers are the best they can do, given their circumstances."
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"id": "46506834",
"text": "Watching a civilized nation drop a nuclear bomb on an enemy really got into peoples heads.\n\nWhat's worse is.. it worked."
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"id": "46507723",
"text": "You should read Blood Meridian."
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"id": "46507117",
"text": "there's a fair argument to make that a nation that drops a nuclear bomb on a city isn't \"civilized\""
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"id": "46507425",
"text": "The high end of the range of death estimates by the two atomic bombs is around 246,000. The estimated range of US military deaths from an invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall) was 250,000 to 1,000,000, and another 5 to 10 million Japanese. Dropping nukes was both barbaric and the more civilized option. Oppenheimer et al. deserve their acclaim.\n\nJapan attacked the US first, and by Hiroshima the US had 110,000 dead in the Pacific theater. Imagine living through that before judging them."
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"id": "46507627",
"text": "> Dropping nukes was both barbaric and the more civilized option.\n\nAlso perhaps worth noting that after the first bomb the Japanese government was not planning to surrender. The second dropping moved things to a deadlock where half of the ministers—both in the small war council, and the larger full government—wanted to the surrender and the other half did not.\n\nThe Emperor had to be called in—an almost unprecedented action—to break the tie. Then, even after the Emperor had made his decision, there was a coup attempt to prevent the \"surrender\"† broadcast:\n\n* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyūjō_incident\n\nI do not know how anyone can think that Japan would have stopped fighting without the bombings when two bombings barely got things over the line.\n\nThe book 140 days to Hiroshima by David Dean Barrett goes over the meeting minutes / deliberations and interviews to outline the timeline, and it was not a sure thing that the surrender was going to happen: the hardliners really wanted to keep fighting, and they were ready to go to great lengths to get their way (see Kyūjō above).\n\nThe Japanese knew for a year before the bombings that they could not win the war, but they figured that by holding out—causing more causalities of Japanese, Americans, Chinese, Filipinos, etc —the US would lose their resolve and terms could be negotiated so that Japan could (e.g.) keep the land they conquered in Manchuria, etc .\n\n† A word not actually used by the Japanese in the broadcast."
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"id": "46507795",
"text": "> The estimated range of US military deaths from an invasion of Japan (Operation Downfall) was 250,000 to 1,000,000, and another 5 to 10 million Japanese.\n\nI've read convincing arguments (sorry, I cannot find them now) that this reasoning is mostly bogus.\n\nOne, the decision of dropping the bombs wasn't coordinated with planners of Operation Downfall, so casualties weren't a consideration. As such, it cannot be \"civilized\" (because the intent to be civilized just wasn't there).\n\nTwo, those casualty numbers rest on arbitrary assumptions about what the Japanese would or wouldn't do that don't hold up to real scrutiny, and ignore a host of options other than \"full scale invasion\" or \"nuke\".\n\nThree, you cannot discount the flex towards the USSR, an argument many Japanese to this day maintain was a major reason. Which wasn't a civilized reason either."
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"id": "46507344",
"text": "I think that lesson from World War Two is that civilization is all the things we do to prevent another World War Two from happening. And that what we owe to all the people in Hiroshima, Tokyo, Nanjing, the Warsaw Ghetto, Katyn, Bengal, Manzanar, and a thousand other places is to prevent anything like that from happening again."
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"id": "46507614",
"text": "Where will the planes land?"
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"id": "46507788",
"text": "Those interstate highways are starting to look pretty good as the fuel guage drops"
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"id": "46506333",
"text": "Aren't there bunkers near dc for that reason though?"
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"id": "46506573",
"text": "According to some deep dives into the budget figures for the East Wing Ballroom .. there are new bunkers going in as we type .. and likely being networked underground."
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"id": "46506646",
"text": "Feels like our politicians and MIC higher ups are preparing themselves for nuclear war but not building the rest of us any bunkers"
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"id": "46507198",
"text": "Why would anyone build bunkers for cattle?"
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"id": "46507197",
"text": "It's felt like that for more than half a century: https://youtu.be/zZct-itCwPE"
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"id": "46506593",
"text": "Not to mention the bunkers being built by various Silicon Valley billionaires, who by rights should be considered appendages of the U.S. state."
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"id": "46507181",
"text": "> And may tolerate a coupe instead\n\nThe US is vulnerable to that scenario as well, even though the military’s willingness to comply with literally textbook illegal orders is not encouraging."
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"id": "46506408",
"text": "“And may tolerate a coupe instead.”\n\nI could tolerate a coupe but I’d prefer a sports car :-/"
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"id": "46507207",
"text": "coup"
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"id": "46506369",
"text": "> the military and public would not want to die in a nuclear inferno to defend national sovereignty\n\nErm, it's kind of demanded for people to go out and die to defend national sovereignty in nations that have a draft. For myself, I'd prefer to be vaporized than bleed out in a trench if it really comes down to it."
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"id": "46506493",
"text": "Realistically speaking you'll die of an infected and untreated burn wound though, the severe blast and burn area is just much much bigger than the fancy \"everything just goes poof\" core."
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"id": "46507360",
"text": "Yah, but you could enter the ruins of some shop, get some booze there, and walk straight into ground zero. Feeling the buzz. Getting tired...drifting away..."
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"id": "46506591",
"text": "Vaporized is good with me. Not so keen to have my body melt over several days due to acute radiation exposure though..."
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"id": "46506886",
"text": "Giving up is really very common in war."
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"id": "46507608",
"text": "Yeah I imagine we’ll see a cottage industry of small countries with nukes in ten-fifteen years.\n\nPlenty of places have uranium and unless they are being watched like Iran they can just set up clandestine enrichment operations."
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"id": "46506100",
"text": "I think have thousands of artillery shells aimed at Seoul is the larger deterrent."
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"id": "46506235",
"text": "The nukes are to deter the US. They have been steadily increasing their missile range to first reach regional bases like Guam and now the all the way to the continental USA, and are now even launching a nuclear powered and nuclear armed ballistic missile submarine https://www.hisutton.com/DPRK-SSN-Update.html"
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"id": "46506298",
"text": "The nukes are a bargaining chip (disarmament). Basically, if your country has the human and tech capital to develop a nuke, you probably should because it's free money.\n\nI don't believe that NK's nukes deter the US from doing anything. Would NK nuke Guam and risk getting carpet-bombed with nukes for endless days and nights until even the ants are dead? Artillery on Seoul doesn't matter. The US would just ask SK to evacuate it.\n\nThe US doesn't do anything about the DPRK because it's not economically relevant (i.e. it doesn't have the world's largest oil reserves etc). In an ironic way, their economy being closed-off and mostly unintegrated with the Western world maintains the peace."
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"id": "46506352",
"text": "The nukes have many roles perhaps but I think the fully developed weapons are for retaliatory strike.\n\nThey are the North Korean leadership saying that if the US (or China or anyone really) tries to surgically decapitate them (like the US just did in Venezuela) then the nukes are used to take the attackers with them"
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"id": "46506510",
"text": "Yes that's the orthodox doctrine of nuclear deterrent. To be truly effective you need a triad of land-based ICBMs, nuclear-armed submarines, and aircraft-based delivery systems so that your second-strike capability remains intact through any decapitation attempts.\n\nIf you don't have the triad then you need to brandish your capability more ostentatiously, like France does with its deliberate refusal to commit to a no-first-strike policy. This is (one of the many reasons) why North Korea does so much sabre-rattling: they don't have a (publicly known) nuclear triad for deterrence."
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"id": "46506890",
"text": "Just a note that the importance of the triad is a very American perspective on deterrence and most other countries don't seem to approach this the same way the US does.\n\nThe Russians really have a quad (they also have mobile, truck mounted ICBM's that form a significant part of their deterrent, offering some of the guaranteed second-strike advantages that the US gets from SSBN's- and which their SSBN program does not provide nearly as well as the USN does). The Chinese only recently added a manned aircraft leg of their triad with the JL-1. The Indians technically have a triad- just no silo based systems, all of their land based missiles are from TELs, and they only have two SSBN's and do not do alternate crews so more than 1/3 of the time they don't have any deterrent at sea. The Israeli's are not believed to have any sea-based ballistic missiles, their sea-based deterrent would be Popeye cruise missiles and so vulnerable to interception. The Pakistanis are still building their first sea-based deterrent. The French and the UK have no land-based missiles, they are only sea-based and airplanes. The South Africans invested in the Jericho missile more for its space launched capabilities than its warhead delivery abilities, and never really looked at anything sea-based, so far as is publicly known."
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"id": "46507142",
"text": "> To be truly effective you need a triad of land-based ICBMs, nuclear-armed submarines, and aircraft-based delivery systems\n\nThe core parts for MAD land-based missile silos (to soak up the enemy's missiles) and submarines (to ensure a second strike). Planes are largely a diplomatic deterrent inasmuch as they're easy to send out and easy to recall.\n\nBut Pyongyang isn't playing MAD. It's playing credible threat. And for a credible threat, you just need missiles. (On land or on subs.) The point is that you raise the stakes of e.g. a Maduro operation to risking Los Angeles."
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