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<topics>
1. BGP Technical Analysis
Related: Discussion of AS path prepending, route leaks, traffic engineering practices, whether CANTV's routing behavior was normal or suspicious, and how BGP anomalies are typically caused by misconfigurations rather than attacks
2. Nuclear Deterrence Theory
Related: Extensive debate about whether nuclear weapons would have prevented the Venezuela operation, MAD doctrine, credible second-strike capability, the importance of nuclear triads, and whether small countries should pursue nuclear programs
3. Nuclear Proliferation Incentives
Related: Arguments that the Venezuela operation demonstrates the value of nuclear weapons for deterrence, comparisons to Ukraine giving up nukes, North Korea's strategy, and predictions of increased proliferation
4. DNS HTTPS Record Type
Related: Technical discussion about HTTPS DNS record types, Encrypted Client Hello (ECH), TLS 1.3, and how browsers detect HTTP3 support through DNS queries
5. North Korea's Nuclear Strategy
Related: Analysis of DPRK's nuclear program as rational deterrence, their underground bunkers, relationship with China, and comparison to other nuclear states' capabilities
6. Operation Logistics and Planning
Related: Speculation about whether the Venezuela operation was negotiated, involved insider help, palace coup assistance, and military planning details
7. EU Response and Weakness
Related: Criticism of European passivity toward U.S. aggression, calls for European nuclear deterrent, discussion of EU's political disunity and inability to respond effectively
8. Greenland and Canada Threats
Related: Concerns about Trump administration threatening Denmark over Greenland, potential for similar operations against allies, NATO Article 5 implications
9. Cyber Warfare Capabilities
Related: Discussion of CYBERCOM involvement, power grid attacks, comparison to Stuxnet, and the terrifying implications of state-level cyber attacks
10. Venezuela Military Resistance
Related: Questions about why Venezuelan air defenses didn't respond, speculation about corruption and insider betrayal, comparison of military capabilities
11. Chain of Command for Nukes
Related: Debate about whether nuclear launch orders would be followed for an unpopular leader, palace coups, and the human element in nuclear deterrence
12. Pakistan Nuclear Contingencies
Related: U.S. military planning for Pakistan scenarios, survivability of nuclear arsenals, and limitations of nuclear deterrence without proper safeguards
13. International Law Violations
Related: Discussion of sovereignty, just war principles, legitimacy of intervention against dictators, and international community response to U.S. actions
14. Trump Administration Claims
Related: Skepticism about Trump's statements regarding the operation, his history of leaking capabilities, and questionable accuracy of his technical claims
15. Russia-China Response
Related: Analysis of why Russia and China didn't defend Maduro, their actual relationship with Venezuela, and what this means for other authoritarian allies
16. Iran Air Defense Failure
Related: Discussion of Israeli strikes on Iran, how air defenses were disabled through sabotage and cyber warfare, lessons for other countries
17. Cloudflare Radar Data
Related: Technical discussion of using Cloudflare's BGP monitoring tools, route leak detection, and publicly available BGP datasets for analysis
18. Continuity of Government
Related: Historical analysis of U.S. bunker programs, airborne command posts, comparison to North Korean bunker strategy
19. HN Moderation and Politics
Related: Meta-discussion about downvoting, flagging of political comments, perceived bias in moderation, and astroturfing accusations
20. Traffic Engineering Legitimacy
Related: Technical argument that AS prepending is common practice for traffic management and the anomalies may be entirely routine
0. Does not fit well in any category
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{
"id": "46506201",
"text": "It’s for sure another alarm signal for the EU to further reduce dependencies on our newest geopolitical enemy… the United States of America."
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"id": "46506088",
"text": "There are other attack vectors beyond infrastructure though when the population all have Android Smart Phones running Play Services and communicate using WhatsApp."
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"id": "46506819",
"text": "Most everyone in the world has a Google or Apple phone in their pocket. I'm not sure how much more reliant you can get."
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"id": "46505851",
"text": "It's pick-your-poison, really.\n\nTechnology is notoriously expensive to develop and manufacture. One must either have native capacity (and thus, the wealth) to do so, or must get it from someone else.\n\nOther Western/US-aligned countries might have the ability to do so, albeit at geopolitical and economic cost, because the only thing you're likely to gain from kicking the US out of your tech stack and infrastructure is a tech stack and infrastructure free of the US. Meanwhile American companies will be developing new features and ways of doing things that add economic value. So at best, a wash economically. Maybe the geopolitical implications are enticing enough.\n\nPlaces like Venezuela? Nah. They'll be trading the ability of Americans to jack with their tech infrastructure for the ability of the PRC, Non-US Western nations, or Russia to jack with their tech stack.\n\nThe geopolitics of technology are a lot like a $#1+ sandwich: the more bread you have, the less of someone else's $#1+ you have to eat."
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"id": "46505169",
"text": "There were reports they had considered Christmas Day and New Year's Day. I wonder if it was far enough along that you could see similar BGP anomalies around those times."
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"id": "46505330",
"text": "Not from the cloudflare dashboard, you can zoom out. The night of the attack doesnt even really stand out as abnormal when zooming out that far."
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"id": "46505610",
"text": "So you're saying I can't set an alert for these conditions and use the timing to place a quick bet on the geopolitical polymarket du-jour?\n\nhttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-polymarket-user-made-more..."
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"id": "46505712",
"text": "Yeah, I was thinking it definitely needs to be correlated to geopolitical tensions in some way. Polymarket data might be helpful in this case- and provides incentives for putting this kind of data together."
}
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"id": "46505594",
"text": "Was the OSRS economy affected by the strikes? I'm assuming they didn't disrupt internet access for most Venezuelan citizens but I have not looked into it yet."
}
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"id": "46506238",
"text": "Yes, it looks like it definitely was: https://x.com/eslischn/status/1104542595806609408"
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"id": "46506475",
"text": "Unless I'm missing an update, it appears that this post is from 2019?"
}
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"id": "46506825",
"text": "I'd say that an OSRS outage would be more likely to measurably affect the Venezuelan economy than the reverse."
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"id": "46506058",
"text": "Any osrs Venezuelan clans you’re looking to contact about this?"
}
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"id": "46505368",
"text": "Fascinating find and investigation. While there isn't a solid conclusion from it, glad it was written up, perhaps someone will be able to connect more dots with it."
}
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"id": "46506856",
"text": "For a length-15 ASpath to show up on the internet, a whole bunch of better routes need to disappear first, which seems to have happened here. But that disappearance is very likely unrelated to CANTV.\n\nFurthermore, BGP routes can get \"stuck\", if some device doesn't handle a withdrawal correctly… this can lead to odd routes like the ones seen here. Especially combined with the long path length and disappearance of better routes."
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"id": "46507491",
"text": "I wonder if this can be monitored on a global scale as a sort of predictor of “something gonna happen at country X”."
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"id": "46505218",
"text": "What would be the result of this? I think it would route data through Sparkle as a way of potentially spying on internet traffic without having compromised the network equipment within Venezuela, but I'm not familiar enough with network architecture to really understand what happened."
}
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"id": "46505966",
"text": "Maybe there would be some benefit in just dropping some packets. For example to WhatsApp, Telegram, Gmail servers. Could add a communication delay that could be critical and denies people a fairly reliable fallback communication method."
}
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"id": "46506750",
"text": "The effect of this would be traffic from GlobeNet destined for Dayco would transit over CANTV's network for a period.\n\nI'm not sure why the author singled out Telecom Italia Sparkle."
}
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"id": "46505122",
"text": "I wonder what kind of capabilities the US army didn't use during this operation."
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"id": "46505206",
"text": "BGP is so unsecure that almost anyone can create chaos."
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"id": "46505341",
"text": "Even by accident!"
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"id": "46505618",
"text": "or even by normal load from someone deciding to split a /8 prefix into /24's"
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"id": "46506376",
"text": "Most BGP peers have router filters in place. It's not 1996 anymore. I remember the days of logging into a Cisco connected to a Sprint T1 and seeing a coworker had fat fingered a spammer's route, sending it to null0. Oops. How did that happen?"
}
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"id": "46507265",
"text": "I worked as a contractor for a IoT gig that sold sim cards services for buses, trains et cetera.\n\nThe radio towers we used to access to obtain the accounting data (CDRs) all had the same very weak password."
}
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"id": "46505248",
"text": "Let’s be honest, that was a crazy operation. I wonder whether they really secured all chances of success, or just winged it with chances of not depositing the leader, and him being able to summon his diplomatic relations into 50 countries declaring war to the USA.\n\nWhile on their way out, if the USA could set everything back to IPv6, that would be nice."
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"id": "46505571",
"text": "The outcome is less-crazy if one views it as assisting a palace-coup, partnering with a bunch of Venezuelan government and military insiders already seeking to depose Maduro, able to subtly clear the path and provide intel."
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"id": "46505989",
"text": "P.S.: In that scenario, it's quite possible for both groups of conspirators to benefit from denying it and saber-rattling:\n\n* The (remaining) Venezuelan government gets to point to Big Evil America to unify (or crack-down-upon) an unhappy public, and they avoid being personally tarred as unpatriotic.\n\n* Trump et al. get to \"wag the dog\" as distraction from crimes and mismanagement back home."
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"id": "46505740",
"text": "> him being able to summon his diplomatic relations into 50 countries declaring war to the USA.\n\nAs if. Dictators only do things that benefit themselves, and deciding to attack the US is suicide and/or world ending."
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"id": "46505833",
"text": "Took a long time to catch up with Bin Laden after he attacked the US."
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"id": "46506508",
"text": "Let’s be realistic.\n\nNot easy to find one man in a haystack. Guerrilla warfare has always been insanely overpowered as a defense tactic anyways, as are terrorist attacks.\n\nThe US can realistically only be challenged militarily by Europe or Asia, assuming a unified continent, and the US is on the offensive. If it’s defensive, the US might put up a good fight against the rest of the planet ."
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"id": "46506010",
"text": "we don't really have a way to tell if it was even real, it would actually be a rather trivial operation for the government during those times and the entire thing could have just been overplayed and/or involved collaboration from all sides.\n\nnone of those documents exist since it was probably never documented to begin with so we will never know I guess."
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"id": "46506099",
"text": "No one would lift a finger for him. Russia just watched. The Chinese too. They may be allies in words but in the end each dictator just care about themselves. Just like how Trump wouldn’t help any ally unless he got something out of it."
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"id": "46506589",
"text": "Of course they didn't. While I can't imagine Russia is exactly happy that it lost an ally in the Western Hemisphere, this kind of action is very much aligned with Putin's multi-polar worldview where the great powers leave each other to play empire in their respective spheres of influence. It helps justify things like invading Ukraine. I can imagine some in the Chinese military are over the moon right now, taking notes on how to force regime change in Taiwan."
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"id": "46505504",
"text": "> While on their way out, if the USA could set everything back to IPv6, that would be nice.\n\nYou actually think the US would leave things better than they found them?"
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"id": "46505720",
"text": "Only when it's oil infrastructure."
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"id": "46506256",
"text": "They never ‘leave’ that."
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"id": "46507584",
"text": "There are BGP anomalies every day."
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"id": "46505350",
"text": "Alternative theory: Part of the operation caused power outages or disrupted some connections, the BGP anomalies were a result of that.\n\nThe data would make that more likely, because deliberately adding a longer route doesn't achieve much. It's not usually going to get any traffic."
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"id": "46505669",
"text": "The BGP anomalies were 24-hours~ before the power outage, so I'm not sure I follow what you're arguing."
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"id": "46505836",
"text": "What I mean is that cause and effect here could be different then the author thinks. We see some route changes, but those changes make no sense on their own since they wouldn't capture any traffic. That makes it more probable that BGP was not the attack, but that some other action caused this BGP anomalie as a side effect.\n\nFor example, maybe some misconfiguration caused these routes to be published because another route was lost. Which could very well be the actual cyber attack, or the effect of jamming, or breaking some undersea cable, or turning off the power to some place."
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"id": "46506332",
"text": "I think what the other commenter is saying is that the BGP changes happened 12 hours before any of the power loss/bomb drop, so that eliminates your primary cause."
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"id": "46507680",
"text": "I never understood the (now decade old) argument of 'parts of the Internet cannot be shut down'\n\nClearly and empirically, BGP can shut off parts of the Internet, just as Trump wanted to do in 2015.\n\nhttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/dear-donald-trump-no-you-1322..."
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"id": "46505454",
"text": "Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46499419"
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"id": "46505824",
"text": "Symbolic link to the Cloudflare RPKI status for CANTV.\n\n[1]: https://radar.cloudflare.com/routing/as8048ref=loworbitsecur..."
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"id": "46505343",
"text": "Cyber-warfare capabilities on this level seem pretty horrific. What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike? That seems extremely disorientating. What if you could simply turn off the power grid indefinitely?"
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"id": "46505763",
"text": "Russia attacks Ukrainian power grid on a weekly basis. Not only with cyber-attacks but with actual bombs. Over Christmas 750k homes in Kyiv were without power or heating. This is not a hypothetical it's daily reality for millions of people in Ukraine."
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"id": "46505364",
"text": "> What if you could simply turn off the power grid of Kyiv or Moscow in anticipation of a strike?\n\nI expect every major world power has a plan to (attempt to) do precisely that to their enemies.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb\n\n> The US Navy used sea-launched Tomahawk missiles with Kit-2 warheads, involving reels of carbon fibers, in Iraq as part of Operation Desert Storm during the Gulf War in 1991, where it disabled about 85% of the electricity supply. The US Air Force used the CBU-94, dropped by F-117 Nighthawks, during the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia on 2 May 1999, where it disabled more than 70% national grid electricity supply.\n\nI would not, however, take \"Trump said something\" as indicative of much. \"It was dark, the lights of Caracas were largely turned off due to a certain expertise that we have, it was dark, and it was deadly\" is both visibly untrue from the video evidence available, and is the precise sort of off-the-cuff low-fact statement he's prone to."
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"id": "46505516",
"text": "General Caine specifically said they utilized CYBERCOM (which is the US inter-branch hacking command) to pave the way for the special ops helicopters. I personally have no doubt that any (whether or not they all were) lights being out was due to a US hack. Some of the stuff that got blown up may well have been to prevent forensic recover of US tools and techniques."
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"id": "46505574",
"text": "I have no doubt they used cyberattacks and electronic warfare.\n\nTrump just seems the worst person in the world to play a game of telephone with on such a subject.\n\nFor example: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2025/05/16/pentagon-silent-a...\n\n> “The F-35, we’re doing an upgrade, a simple upgrade,” Trump said. “But we’re also doing an F-55, I’m going to call it an F-55. And that’s going to be a substantial upgrade. But it’s going to be also with two engines.”\n\n> Frank Kendall, the secretary of the Air Force during former President Joe Biden’s administration, said in an interview with Defense News that it is unclear what Trump was referring to when he discussed an “F-22 Super,” but it may have been a reference to the F-47 sixth-generation fighter jet… Kendall said it is also unclear what Trump was referring to when he discussed the alleged F-55."
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Rules:
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